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Dems.in 06?
Published on November 28, 2004 By DNCdude In Democrat
After their overwhelming defeat this past election their has been much talk of whats next for the party. New leaders in the senate and DNC are needed, so for the senate the democrats naturally chose somenone from their party considered concervative. Wait a minute is that really the face of the Party? As for the new DNC chairman its rummored to be either Howard Dean or John Edwards. Wait a minute didn't both of these people loose the parties presidential ticket? As is seen the article Democratic Party In The 21st Century[/I We really are sinking back to our older leader instead of the newer younger faces. (With esception to Edwards and Obama) Will the Democrats close the gap or just fade out. After all we've been around for at least 176 years. Is it time we change our party?
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16
DNCdude
on Nov 28, 2004
Just curious but why do you hate Dean? I don't care much for his "acting out" but he would be a good rally for the base I think.

Sincerely,
DNCdude
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DNCdude
on Nov 28, 2004
For Chairman of the DNC maybe Tom Daschle would be a good bet? What do you think?
18
whoman69
on Nov 28, 2004
Dean is seen by a crazy raving lunatic, deserved or not. Hillary will have people coming out of the woodworks to vote against her. Many of Clinton's failures are going to be thrown back at her.

The next Democratic nominee needs to be someone that cannot be tied to the fringes of the party, and is able to energize people in the way Kerry could not. We probably don't even know who that person is yet.
19
DNCdude
on Nov 28, 2004
The next Democratic nominee needs to be someone that cannot be tied to the fringes of the party,


No it can not be someone tied to democratic beliefs however none-the-less this person needs to be able to energize the Democratic base more than everyone in general. In my personal opinion Dean is not a "crazy raving lunatic" he simply gets into the moment and messes up, who doesn't do that?

Sincerely,
DNCdude
20
drmiler
on Nov 28, 2004
Reply #19 By: DNCdude - 11/28/2004 11:17:30 PM
The next Democratic nominee needs to be someone that cannot be tied to the fringes of the party,


No it can not be someone tied to democratic beliefs however none-the-less this person needs to be able to energize the Democratic base more than everyone in general. In my personal opinion Dean is not a "crazy raving lunatic" he simply gets into the moment and messes up, who doesn't do that?

Sincerely,
DNCdude


Thaat's not all they need to energize. They also need to capture the republicans attention.
21
DNCdude
on Nov 29, 2004
Thaat's not all they need to energize. They also need to capture the republicans attention.


In my personal opinion they don't need to do that, the GOP does that for them, as the DNC does for Republicans, I will give you they need more than 7% of the Republican vote.

Sincerely,
DNCdude
22
Daiwa
on Nov 29, 2004
I find Obama personally attractive, but he's yet to serve one day in Congress, so let's hold off on those "first black president" predictions till he has at least a little track record. The Dems would not do themselves a favor by simply latching onto him as the second coming just because he's mixed black and won an election against Alan Keyes. There has to be more to him than a marketing ploy for him to be taken seriously.

Cheers,
Daiwa
23
DNCdude
on Nov 29, 2004
Good point Daiwa! Hopefully he will have a strong senate record!

Sincerely,
DNCdude

P.S. Does anyone live in SD?
24
JenPie
on Nov 29, 2004
I find Obama personally attractive, but he's yet to serve one day in Congress, so let's hold off on those "first black president" predictions till he has at least a little track record. The Dems would not do themselves a favor by simply latching onto him as the second coming just because he's mixed black and won an election against Alan Keyes. There has to be more to him than a marketing ploy for him to be taken seriously.


perhaps we need to do a little reading on Mr. Obama?? it seems by the lack of substance in your comments, you have decided that an empty "marketing ploy" and his racial backaground have won the respect and support of democrats in Illinois. get real. Mr. Obama has more than just "a little track record," and his ACTIONS have EARNED the respect and support of democrats all over the U.S. and, while everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion, let's at least make it an educated opinion. i've provided several links for your benefit, and hopefully, you'll check them out. in the event you feel i would only post links containing a biased opinion on the man, might i suggest you search the internet yourself (google alone showed over 200,000 results). either way, it would be nice if people commented on things they actually know about or have researched.

i'll restate my original point...we definitely need to keep our eyes on Mr. Obama. if he remains on the same path, he will have a continued and promising future for democrats in IL and all over the U.S.

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DNCdude
on Nov 29, 2004
CHICAGO TRIBUNE
When Barack Obama enters the U.S. Senate in January, he'll be the sole African-American in the world's most powerful legislative body. But he also will arrive in Washington riding a wave of national media buzz and carrying an armful of political IOUs more befitting a Beltway insider than a newcomer.
That status, given a boost by his much-heralded keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention, has propelled his image beyond all proportions that could be expected for a man who has never served in an office higher than Illinois state senator.
Obama donated more than $268,000 in campaign money to other Senate candidates and traveled the country to lend his celebrity status to Democratic Party fundraisers and get-out-the-vote rallies. If the past is prologue, Obama, 43, will endeavor to craft legislation that advances not only his political career, but also his personal agenda to further social justice. In Springfield, he sponsored legislation to stem racial profiling, soften the blow of welfare reform and expand health insurance to the poor.
For most of his eight years in the state Senate, the body was controlled by Republicans. He compensated for being in the minority by building personal relationships with members of the GOP and even joined a weekly bipartisan poker game.
"There are certain things about legislatures that are all the same," he said. "And one is, it's better to be in the majority than the minority. And the other thing is, if you got a chief executive of your own party, it means you are able to help shape and drive an agenda, instead of just react and respond to it."
Obama said he has targeted his first mission: expanding health insurance to those who lack it, particularly among the lower-income. Currently, 44 million Americans lack health insurance.
Years served: 1997 - Present

Legislative assignments: Committees on Health & Human Services (Chairperson); Welfare; Sen. Comm. Whole.

Biography: Attorney; born Aug. 4, 1961, in Hawaii; bachelor's degree, Columbia University, NY, 1983; graduate, Harvard Law School, Cambridge, MA, 1991; chair, The Chicago Annebery Challenge; board member, Woods Fund of Chicago; "40 under 40" award, Crain's Chicago Business, 1993; married (wife, Michelle).
Through hard work and perseverance my father got a scholarship to study in a magical place - America, which stood as a beacon of freedom and opportunity to so many who had come before," he said.

BARACK OBAMA
Grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia
Studied law at Harvard
Civil rights lawyer in Chicago
State senator for Illinois
Mr Obama, 42, is currently a state senator for Illinois, representing a district in south Chicago.
He was the favourite to win the Senate seat in 2004, held by Republican Peter Fitzgerald, who is retiring.
Mr Obama stunned Democratic opponents when he won his party's state nomination in March, facing six opponents and still winning 53% of the vote.
International upbringing
Supporters say he appeals to black and white voters alike. He is also said to have an ability to connect with white rural and small-town voters - a trait Mr Obama puts down to his family background.

Here are a few things from the links for those interested.

Sincerely,
DNCdude

P.S. Thanks JenPie! This stuff is great!
26
whoman69
on Nov 29, 2004
No it can not be someone tied to democratic beliefs


That makes no sense. If he does not have democratic beliefs, why would democrats vote for him?
27
JenPie
on Nov 29, 2004
I like Hillary Clinton also but she would be an easy target in four years. I think she should pitch for VP first, get the American people comfortable with the idea of a woman in power.


even as a female, i tend to agree. i am still somewhat uncomfortable with the idea of Hill running for president straight out of the gates...let's ease everyone into the whole idea. i was born and raised in chicago and remember all-too-well the political chaos caused by Jayne Byrne being elected the city's first female mayor. back then female was the dreaded "F" word! if you consider it took from 1837, when chicago's very first mayor was elected (William Ogden Butler), until 1979 (almost 170 years) for chicago to elect its first female mayor...how long will it take for a majority of the people in the U.S. to accept the idea of electing a female president?? based on history, will we ever be ready? especially if you consider that even now it is not an overly common occurrence for women to be elected to any office. i just think taking the slow and steady route will better the chances.
28
DNCdude
on Nov 29, 2004
That makes no sense. If he does not have democratic beliefs, why would democrats vote for him?


I'm sorry that statement wasn't very clear. What I was trying to get at is that a Democrat running does need to have strong beliefs in Democratic ideals. However he if this person is too be elected he must be able to tell a Republican, "I am willing to reach across the aisle to see what you would like done in our country."

As to Hillary I don't think she'll run, I would love it if she got in on the act possibly as Vice President but I'd say she's happy being a Senater.

SIncerely,
DNCdude
29
JenPie
on Nov 29, 2004
Years served: 1997 - Present


DNC, you are quite welcome...any time! i must add that everytime i see the amount of time he's served, i am reminded of how driven Mr. Obama is. he's accomplished quite a bit in a relatively short period of time.
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DNCdude
on Nov 29, 2004
everytime i see the amount of time he's served, i am reminded of how driven Mr. Obama is. he's accomplished quite a bit in a relatively short period of time.


Yeah he has accomplished quite a bit more in his short political career then many senaters that have been serving forever. Personally I think many more of him are going to pop up. So we won't have to break any laws making clones of him.

Sincerely,
DNCdude
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